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Benefit Of The Child? I Doubt It ![]() A rant by: Anonymous I’m writing because I have a concern about Child Support Act and how areas of it are handled. Note: All numbers used for the following comparisons are just round figures being used to better explain different situations. All these examples are in the Province of Manitoba. Scenario A: Parent A is working at a job and making $1000 per month while raising one child. Parent B who is also working and makes enough where the Guidelines say that parent needs to pay $200 per month towards the care of the child they are a parent of. This means parent A now has $1200 each month, which means they have more to raise and support their child. Scenario B: Parent A is unemployed and getting $1000 from the Federal Government through Employment Assistance. Same as first example, Parent B pays $200 per month. Again, Parent A has $1200 each month for the same reasons as first example. Scenario C: Parent A is unemployed and is on Employment and Income Assistance (Welfare), and gets $1000 per month. Parent B pays $200 per month for Child Support. But in this example, Parent A only has $1000 each month. This is because the $200 from Parent B is going to the Government of Manitoba. The Government of Manitoba in turn deducts $200 from the assistance Parent A gets and uses Parent B’s money to make up the difference. This time around, the child is no better off. Taken from the Federal Child Support Guidelines found at http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/ps/sup/grl/ligfed.html it says… “1. The objectives of these Guidelines are (a) to establish a fair standard of support for children that ensures that they continue to benefit from the financial means of both spouses after separation;” Taken from the Province of Manitoba’s website at http://www.gov.mb.ca/justice/family/guide2004/part_a/a.html “Child support is money paid by one parent to the other when the parents do not live together. It is paid to help with the support of the child or children living with the other parent.” For the purposes of this letter, the key area from the Federal Government is, “benefit from the financial means of both spouses after separation”. And from the Government of Manitoba, it is, “help with the support of the child or children living with the other parent”. In Scenario C, neither of the above is happening. The child is no better off then they were to start. Parent A still has only the $1000 they originally started with. Just because one parent doesn’t work and is supported by the Province, why should the child be forced to suffer? The child in Scenario B has a parent being supported by the Federal Government and is benefiting from the support Parent B is paying. The only one the benefits in Scenario C is the Provincial Government. The money from Parent B is going to help the Province support it’s own obligations that it mandated itself to have to do. One would make the argument saying that why should their tax dollars go to support the child in Scenario C. They would say that yes, the Province should be taking the money that goes for Child Support. But for all the taxpayers that want to use that argument, let’s look at Federal tax dollars. Look at the number of people that have worked for 20, 30 or even 40 years and have paid into something they have never drawn from. I highly doubt the Federal Government saves their money in a fund for when that person needs it. It all goes into the pool and all payouts are drawn from it. This means that these people’s tax dollars are going towards supporting people and their families who are unemployed. Plus, EI pays a person more if they have a family to support. This causing the amount of tax money being used to increase. In the Taxation Year of 2004, the Federal Government collected $17,809,000,000 from all sources towards Employment Assistance. But to the unemployed on EI, the Federal Government paid towards Employment Assistance and Employment Programs like training to get people back to work. There is a difference of that taxpayers have to pay. To go back to the start of this, Child Support Payments are to help better a child that does not have the benefit of having both biological parents living together as a family. In Scenario C, this child is not benefiting from the Child Support Parent B is paying. The Government is benefiting at the end of the day. In both Scenarios B and C, one parent is unemployed and getting financial assistance from taxpayers. I think the make up of Scenario C is wrong and harmful towards the child. I am in the same shoes as Parent B in Scenario C. I in no way feel I shouldn’t pay Child Support. I am 100 % for Child Support and the reasons for it. I feel my money should help my child, not the Government. I pay enough taxes to start with. Why should I have to pay another? In the end, that’s all this is. A tax or user fee pretty much. << Back Add a Comment Comments ( Add a Comment ) Anonymous says: 2005-09-23 09:46:34 That comment is low, even to me. I sympathis w/ ur arguements, my concern here is that i dont think white trash parent deserve any funding. This comment of people paying into EI for 30-40 years and never seeing a cent. The truth is for a person to take 8mths of EI they would have to work 90 years to pay back what they recieved. I pay 1.75% of my income to EI. That is F-A! Just guessing, that would take about 40 years to replace 70% of a years wage. So when people work seasonal work and think they deserve EI I have all kinds of things to say. None positive. EI should only be used when a person has been wrongfully let go. (not because they were too lazy to do a good job) and in the case where a business closes down and all the employess are laid off. Then it is acceptable in my eyes for a person to use EI while they are looking for a new job. But because they are only getting 60 or 70% of their previous income they should be willing to take a job that they are over qualified for and paid less then their previous job, until they have found a job that is more fitting to their expertise. But there is no reason for someone to be on EI for more then a month or 2. This goes for them damn fisherman out east too! Anonymous says: 2006-03-26 10:30:10 I am glad not to be in any situation like this as my husband and I are together to this day. I do think though that sometimes the parent raising the child full time sometimes gets dicked out of the support. My opinion is if you create a child you support the child. No matter how you receive your income. There are too many children out there who go with nothing and it is not there faults. Start paying your support. It's your responsibility. Anonymous says: 2006-03-26 21:54:56 I still don't get it...How about we just wait until we have stable careers and a partner we can stand for a minimum of 18 years (if only 1 child is desired). I understand that rare circumstances result in one or both parents losing their once "stable" job, and sure maybe we should have some help in place. But the fact remains that almost all on social assistance did not have what I would consider a stable job nor a "loving and stable" spouse when they decided to plant a seed. Why am I responsible for the "mistakes" of those who come from a limit gene pool? If we continue to support the stupid, then they will continue to grow in numbers. There is a stupid gene and I say we don't support passing it on within our society. We should eliminate support for stupidity and maybe Darwin's survival of the fittest (or in this case smartest) will prevail. AKA - Operation weed out the retards. |
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A: You should have kept it in your pants B: your kid's ugly